Umano non umano: Zeugma interviews Rosario Di Rosa
A new episode of Collettivo Zeugma’s interview series featuring the artists of the LANDSCAPE 2026 official selection. This time our guest is Rosario Di Rosa, a Sicilian musician and composer working across jazz, contemporary composition and experimental electronics, who placed fourth with his piece AI and I.
In conversation with Francesco Giannico, he talks about the relationship between human identity and artificial intelligence, error and glitch as expressive moments, the dialogue between code and improvisation, and the idea of “hacking” the machine to set sound free. The episode closes with the piece itself, taken from the album UNU – Umano non umano (Avant Sound).
Episode Notes:
- Guest: Rosario Di Rosa (Musician and Composer)
- Interview by: Francesco Giannico (Zeugma Collective)
- Project: LANDSCAPE 2025/2026 – Hacking the System (Zeugma Collective)
- Featured Work: “AI and I” (from the album UNU – Umano non umano, Avant Sound)
FRANCESCO GIANNICO (ZEUGMA): Welcome back from Francesco Giannico of the Zeugma Collective. We continue exploring the pieces and artists chosen for this year’s LANDSCAPE official top ten. This time it’s Rosario Di Rosa, a Sicilian musician and composer whose work moves between jazz, contemporary composition and experimental electronics. For LANDSCAPE, Rosario submitted a piece titled AI and I, a play on words. He describes it as the closing module of an audiovisual work that explores identity through glitch processes, AI-generated voice and field recordings collected between Sicily and Sardinia. The piece opens with an artificial, synthetic, disembodied voice that gradually destabilizes until it collapses into an inverted climax, from which human traces and environmental sounds emerge.
Before we listen to Rosario’s piece, let’s start with a few questions to get to know him better. Rosario, your work brings to light the complex relationship between human identity and the computational flows of artificial intelligence. Where does the urgency come from to explore and make audible this electroacoustic mirroring, which keeps redefining who we are in the digital world?
ROSARIO DI ROSA: I think the urgency comes from a very simple but radical question: how much of our identity is still entirely our own today, and how much is already filtered, shaped and even anticipated by algorithmic systems? We live immersed in invisible computational processes that constantly observe, classify and reinterpret our behavior. In my view, this produces a new kind of mirroring: we no longer see ourselves only through the human gaze, but also through the computational one. My interest is in making this tension audible, and sound becomes an ideal space for bringing out what normally stays hidden: frictions, distortions, zones of ambiguity.
With this piece I didn’t want to simply tell a story about technology, but to explore what happens to identity when it enters into a deep relationship with it. I should also mention that the piece comes from UNU, my latest album, released in January by the Sicilian label Avant Sound. The record is meant to be almost a sonic ecosystem, where the tracks can be listened to in no fixed order, even overlapping one another. Listeners are therefore invited to become composers of the work themselves, within a broader reflection on identity and technology developed across seven compositions.
ZEUGMA: In your piece you set human intentionality in dialogue with the autonomy of the machine. How does your inner, expressive urgency connect with the seemingly neutral, sterile responses of the algorithm? What kind of friction, or symbiosis, did you want to trigger?
ROSARIO DI ROSA: For me, the interesting point is the friction between two very different logics. On one side there is human intentionality: memory, desire, fragility, intuition. On the other there is algorithmic functioning, which seems to operate in a neutral, abstract and impersonal way. But that neutrality is partly an illusion, because I believe the algorithm also produces its own aesthetic, its own imprint. In the piece I was looking for a zone of tension between these two forces: not a clear-cut opposition, but an unstable coexistence. Sometimes the machine seems to go along with my thinking; other times it interrupts it, diverts it, throws it into crisis. And it’s precisely in this friction that, in my view, something interesting emerges.
ZEUGMA: This idea that the algorithm can produce an aesthetic that is, let’s say, its own seems to translate very well into the project: in UNU and in AI and I, artificial intelligence can be seen both as an extension of the self and as a disruptive agent. From the point of view of dialogue and improvisation, how did you handle the dualism between the density of the data generated by the algorithm and the irruption of your own creative gesture?
ROSARIO DI ROSA: I experienced artificial intelligence both as an extension and as a foreign body, in both directions. On the one hand it amplifies creative possibilities that I couldn’t reach as quickly on my own; on the other it introduces an almost alien presence that is destabilizing. In the improvisational dialogue I tried not to control everything, because I was interested in leaving room for the unexpected. The human gesture wasn’t there to dominate the machine, but to negotiate with it. Sometimes I followed the flow of generated data; other times I interrupted it brutally with sonic interventions, cuts and silences. The piece is built precisely within this oscillation between control and surrender.
ZEUGMA: Staying with oscillation, I’d like to ask you about another one: your transdisciplinary path between code and performance. Your work brings together improvisational instrumental practice and programming, technological interaction. How does a deep understanding of automated computational systems affect the way you think about contemporary acoustic ecology?
ROSARIO DI ROSA: For me, code and performance aren’t separate worlds. Programming also means composing possibilities, building behaviors, defining relationships between events, and in that sense writing code can be a deeply musical act. Instrumental and improvisational practice, on the other hand, constantly reminds me that sound is never just information: it is body, space, energy and presence. This double perspective strongly influences the way I think about contemporary acoustic ecology. Every soundscape is made up not only of physical sounds, but also of digital processes, networks, automation, artificial intelligence. We inhabit a hybrid acoustic environment, and I think it’s essential to learn to listen to it critically.
ZEUGMA: You start from the possibility that each of us, when facing a work like this or anything else, can practice critical listening and a deep understanding of the material we’re exposed to. Along those lines, I’d like to ask: what process allowed you to turn a sequence of code or computation into a deep narrative about identity and the loss of control?
ROSARIO DI ROSA: The process was very much tied to transformation. I started from materials generated or mediated by artificial intelligence, but I wasn’t interested in using them as finished outputs. Instead, I wanted to manipulate, deform and transform them through editing, deconstruction and recomposition. The material lost its original form and became something more ambiguous. In this sense, error, in the most artistic sense of the word, played a central role: glitches, artifacts, instability and unexpected system behaviors weren’t problems to fix, but expressive moments. In my view, it is often error that creates a kind of vulnerability in the system and brings it closer to the human. It’s telling, after all, that the title of my album, UNU, is an acronym for Umano non umano (Human Non-Human), a reference to a 1969 experimental film by the great artist Mario Schifano.
ZEUGMA: Speaking of human and non-human, it reminds me that the focus of this edition of LANDSCAPE was precisely hacking the system, Hacking the System. In what way do you feel your work resonates most with this attitude? Does co-creating with the machine mean going along with it, or breaking its own rules to set sound free?
ROSARIO DI ROSA: I feel a strong resonance with the idea of hacking the system. For me, hacking doesn’t simply mean breaking a technical structure. It means diverting a logic, using a tool against its original expectations, opening up unforeseen spaces. In my work, collaborating with the machine doesn’t mean passively accepting its rules, but entering into a critical dialogue with them. Sometimes I go along with the system; other times I push it toward zones of instability, ambiguity or rupture, and it’s in those moments that something truly creative emerges. When the machine stops being merely an efficient tool, it becomes a field of unexpected possibilities.
ZEUGMA: Rosario, we’re almost at the end. One last question before we play your piece: if you had to describe the relationship between “AI and I” in your piece using just three words, which would you choose?
ROSARIO DI ROSA: Friction, transformation, creativity.
ZEUGMA: They seem perfectly in line with everything you’ve said. Thank you, Rosario Di Rosa, for being with us. As a reminder, his piece AI and I placed 4th in the LANDSCAPE 2026 official selection. Goodbye from us, and here is Rosario’s piece, which we can finally listen to and enjoy.








